Our guest today is Rupert Read, an Emeritus Professor of Philosophy at the University of East Anglia in Norwich, UK, former spokesperson for Extinction Rebellion and co-director of the new Climate Majority Project. He’s authored several books, including This Civilisation is Finished, Parents for a Future and Why Climate Breakdown Matters and has been many times on the Today programme, Question Time, Newsnight, Politics Live, Al Jazeera, and more and he’s here to talk to us today about the Climate Majority Project.
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Steering past the eco-crisis, one balanced judgement at a time
A Review of ‘Regenesis’ by George Monbiot (Allan Lane, 2022)
A combination of groundedness, breadth of awareness, balance and a sense of urgency is required to address the highly complex, critical and contested issues around the multiple eco-crisis we are facing. I have been following George Monbiot’s writings for many years, and in 2019 had the privilege of taking part in a podcast interview with him about rewilding. During that time he has only grown into these qualities. His most evident quality as a journalist is his commitment to drawing public attention to the abuses of the rich and powerful, that not only trash the environment but also deny justice to the poor. However, many left-wing journalists are prone to over-simplifying complex issues and getting drawn into tribal one-dimensionality. Monbiot is not. His background in zoology has equipped him with a strong awareness of systems, and of the inter-relationships we all depend on. The fire is always there, but he also examines the science carefully, considers counter-arguments, and references everything assiduously, whilst also producing highly readable prose – no mean achievement. His new book, ‘Regenesis: Feeding the World without Devouring the Planet’ is an exceptional achievement, on a topic of vast importance, that I have been sufficiently impressed by to want to review immediately.
Monbiot’s book is an investigation into how we can address all the competing conditions around food production so as to feed the world without trashing it. That means that all sorts of holy cows (both figurative and literal) need to put firmly into retirement and strongly discouraged from reproducing themselves. The debate around this is full of all sorts of unquestioned absolutizations and entrenched oppositions that can only be addressed by reconsidering the framework in which they are thought about. Monbiot does this by rightly insisting on maintaining the broader question of how the poor of the world are going to be fed alongside that of how environmental destruction from farming can be reduced or eliminated. He does not accept partial answers as final, whether that means organic farming dependent on animal manure, rewilding on the Knepp model with very small numbers of animals culled for meat in a rewilded landscape, or no-till farming that still employs herbicides to clear the unploughed ground for a new crop. All of these models are respected as far as they go – but it is nowhere near far enough to address all the complex conditions we are facing. Monbiot has to constantly employ the Middle Way in practice to find his way through these complex arguments – even though he would probably not call it that, and even still uses the term ‘incremental’ pejoratively. He has to be balanced in a deeper sense of balance, avoiding absolutizations, to be radical in the ways the situation requires.
Monbiot leaves us in no doubt about the urgency and importance of food production as the most important source of our global problems of global heating and loss of biodiversity. 12% of the world’s land area is used to grow crops, and 28% for animal grazing – yet animals fed by grazing alone provide only 1% of the world’s protein, and 43% of those croplands are used to grow food for animals. This means that if everyone adopted a plant-based diet, we could not only eliminate use of land for pasture but also a large proportion of the cropland – freeing up three-quarters of the world’ agricultural land for rewilding (all these figures can be checked on Oxford University’s Our World in Data site). As Monbiot writes:
One of the reasons that people often underestimate the importance of land use is that they read figures about the contribution of agriculture to global heating that show it to be just one of a number of contributing sources, not the biggest. Its impact on global heating is systematically underestimated, because these figures do not take into account what the land used for agriculture is not doing because it is being used by agriculture – the “opportunity costs” as Monbiot calls them. These opportunity costs are huge, because they mean that around 30% of the world’s land that could be absorbing carbon as forest, wetland etc, is not doing so. When this is pointed out, the farming lobby often responds with exaggerated claims about the levels of carbon absorption in the soil of pasture when optimally managed (including the work of Allan Savory, which Monbiot carefully debunks). According to Monbiot and his references, not only are these claims exaggerated, but the latest research might lead us to question whether carbon can be reliably stored in soil (other than very wet soil or peat) at all. Another reason why people underestimate it is that they consider global heating in isolation from the biodiversity crisis – which is just as pressing. Land use is indisputably the source of the biodiversity crisis: we are just not giving enough space to other life forms.
Monbiot’s reminders of the widest pressing conditions through reliably-sourced statistics form an important backbone of the case in his book, but there is much more to it than that. The first chapter begins much more personally, in an orchard, where Monbiot sits down to look carefully at a small patch of soil, in the process bringing home its complexity. Most of the book consists of a series of encounters with key people who can give him evidence about potential ways forward in the land use crisis. There is Iain Tolhurst, who successfully produces organic fruit and veg on a commercial scale without using animal manure, through the use of wild flower strips to provide cover for pest predators and applications of wood chip to boost fertility. There is Tim Ashton, the no-till grain farmer, and finally Pasi Vainikka, a Finnish developer of revolutionary new food protein through the fermentation of bacteria in vats. It is this final, “farmfree” high-tech solution to meeting humanity’s protein needs that gets the most emphasis in Monbiot’s publicity video for the book (below), but the other figures were to my mind just as interesting and relevant.
The work of Iain Tolhurst (‘Tolly’) is remarkable because it demonstrates the falsity of the insistence often found in organic or permaculturist circles that animal use is always necessary for a sustainable food system. As Monbiot points out, many organic farms thus make themselves dependent on livestock farms as sources of manure, with little checking of how those animals have been treated or what antibiotic residues might be in their manure. More importantly, manure is also a very blunt instrument for fertilizing a crop, providing constant nutrients when the plant needs them more at some times than others: manure can thus contribute greatly to the washing out of excessive nutrients that is in the process of destroying the ecology of many British rivers. ‘Tolly’ by contrast, has not only found ways of limiting pest numbers by harbouring their predators in a biodiverse area of wild flowers near the crop, but also manages to fertilize it successfully through only limited applications of wood chippings. Monbiot’s case is that crops do not need manure – what they need is the gentler nourishment provided by limited plant material at the right time in their development.
As a functional vegan of about 30 years, who is now developing a forest garden for sustainable food production on former pasture land, this was eye-opening. I have often had doubts about the argument that animals are necessary, but have never had sufficient evident to support it, and thus have increasingly considered it a weakness in the vegan case. However, reading Monbiot’s book has made me much more confident in my belief that I can set up sustainable food production in a forest garden without needing animals or (in the long-term) their manure – although for the moment I have inherited a large heap of it with the land. That’s a great relief, as I particularly do not want the time-consuming responsibility of looking after animals, quite apart from the land use issues. In the short term, that means lots of mowing, but in the longer term that will decrease as the land I am working with becomes more effectively forested and covered with other perennials.
Monbiot also discusses the huge value of switching to perennial plants rather than annuals, so that we do not have to keep breaking up the soil with its valuable micro-organisms, earthworms and rhizosphere (zone around roots set up to sustain a plant). I was already very much aware of this from my reading of agroforestry literature – which oddly Monbiot does not mention at all. He starts to make use of a new perennial type of wheat called Kernza, which again was a fascinating discovery for me, but for some reason he does not discuss all the other ways that trees and perennial plants can help to fulfil our needs for not only fruit and nuts, but also potentially legumes and other vegetables, and the ways that agroforestry can create a very biodiverse space that nevertheless produces lots of food. His question may be ‘Can this feed the world?’ and this is a fair enough question, but one that I would have liked to see him address. My own guess for now is that agroforestry can at least make a significant contribution to feeding the world, because although it does not produce commercial quantities of any one foodstuff, it could offer a very sustainable (and low-labour) alternative means of food production for small communities that does not necessarily require large amounts of land (nor necessarily high-quality arable farmland).
Monbiot’s case, however, is that what we need most of all is a ‘new agronomy’, giving us a detailed enough understanding of fertility to be able to reproduce Tolly’s successful experiment in animal-free organic horticulture elsewhere. We also need the rapid development of perennial grain crops, and the development of ‘farmfree’ protein production. We need to stop worrying unnecessarily about ‘food miles’ which a an almost negligible overall effect compared to the impact of land use, but we do need more community ownership and fair trading to counteract the capture of food resources by massive corporate interests. Livestock farmers need to face up to the fact that their industry has no future, but be given help in adapting and diversifying. He thus avoids a series of absolutizing dogmas: the dogmas of those who reject new technology just because it is new, the dogmas of those who think animal farming must be good because it is traditional and enculturated, and the dogmas of those who focus parochially just on one aspect of the complex picture (such as localism) and assume that that is enough to make food production sustainable. Most of all he questions the dogmatism of those who are content to develop small localised sources of organic or permacultural food at a high price, but who dismiss the wider question of how the poor of the world will access the food they need. At no point does Monbiot belittle those who have made these major achievements in making food production more sustainable, but he still points out their limitations, and disagrees with any dogmatic assumption that they are the final solution.
This is a superb book that I think everyone should read, but it is not without its own limitations and mistakes. I have already mentioned the omission of agroforestry, and no doubt many others will have their own favoured solution that they will complain Monbiot either does not consider or does not do justice to. I don’t think he is aiming to be comprehensive, though, only to raise our awareness of some new solutions that we may not have considered very much before. Amongst these, I was not entirely convinced by Monbiot’s degree of enthusiasm for ‘farmfree’ bacterial cultivation. He is right to point out that the use of technology and the ‘yuck’ factor are not grown-up arguments against this. However, enthusiasm for this, as for any new technology whatsoever, needs to be taken with a pinch of salt, until we see how well it works in practice when produced in volume and sold to consumers. There is also the question of how much the use of this technology is really necessary, given that we already have plenty of plant-based meat substitutes providing protein, and that these can be produced on massively less land, with massively less incidental suffering , than their animal equivalents. Time will tell.
On his account of the cultural entrenchment of animal farming, though, I felt there were some basic mistakes. He blames the idealization of animal farming on ‘poetry’ – that is, the strong pastoral tradition that presents the life of the shepherd as a bucolic ideal – and thinks we need more ‘numbers’ and less ‘poetry’. This makes the very basic mistake of confusing meaning and belief – that is, the value of the cultural symbols themselves with the negative effects of the dogmatic beliefs that have become associated with them. Pastoral poetry has inspired generations of readers in all sorts of ways: it is largely archetypal in its effects, meaning that it offers inspiration because of its meaning, independently of the beliefs that may have become associated with particular interpretations of it. Poetry as a whole is not to blame for the interpretation of that poetry as supporting dogmatic beliefs about the absolute value of animal agriculture, only for (at worst) limiting our awareness of its downsides by not making those downsides so meaningful to us. The same point applies in reverse to numbers, which are not in themselves significant at all, and thus not beneficial or otherwise. It is the way the numbers are used, to draw our attention to new conditions by more precisely making us aware of their extent, that is valuable. It is not maths that will save the world (plenty of people have been proficient in maths without doing so), but a broadening of awareness beyond one limited set of interdependent conditions to consider the wider systems in which they are embedded. Behind this error is a more basic, and common, mistake in our culture – the failure to distinguish meaning from belief, and thus credit the value of inspiring cultural symbols without reducing them simplistically to belief effects. Jeremy Lent, whom Monbiot admires as “one of the greatest thinkers of our age” is very much subject to the same limitation: one that I tried to broach with him to some extent in a podcast discussion in 2018.
If Monbiot unthinkingly reproduces a few of the dogmas of our age, however, this is a very minor matter compared to the large number of very important ones that he questions. However others may see him, he is not ideologically ‘left wing’ in any ways that restrict his critical skills, but only in ways that are carefully justified in relation to evidence brought into contact with a wide-ranging compassion. He is also quite literally grounded in a very human appreciation of the soil and of the wider environment – a factor that should not be underestimated. He can write wonderfully, and the message he offers here is extremely important. Whatever its minor defects, I urge you to read this book anyway.
Network Stimulus Issues 1: Climate Change
The next main meeting of the Middle Way Network will be on Zoom at 7pm UK time on Sun 14th Feb 2021. In the last few sessions of our ethics and politics series we will be applying the Middle Way to some specific issues, and climate change is the first of those issues. This will also enable us to have some talks from different speakers. To apply the Middle Way to a particular issue is not to come up with a definite prescription or solution for that issue. In accordance with error focus as an approach, we can be more confident about identifying absolutised assumptions to avoid when approaching the issue than we can about the answers. However, hopefully the discussion will help you examine your own views of the issue.
The massive threat posed by climate change makes it an obvious source of fear, but because it is also a very complex issue, panicked or extreme reactions are the last thing we need. It is possible to recognise the urgency of the issue without panicking, and whilst maintaining a determination to stay in the Middle Way. Robert M. Ellis will suggest various absolutizations that it might be helpful to avoid in approaching climate change – including denialism, extreme pessimism, and sole reliance on one kind of response or solution as the only acceptable one.
There’ll be a short talk on this topic, followed by questions, then discussion in regionalised breakout groups, and a plenary session at the end. If you’re interested in joining us but are not already part of the Network, please see the general Network page to sign up. On that page you can also find links to all the previous network talks on basic approaches to the Middle Way and to ethics and politics. If you would like catch up more with basic aspects of the Middle Way approach, we are also holding a reading group (next on 21st Feb) which will do this – please contact Jim (at) middlewaysociety.org if you want to join this.
Here is the video from this session:
Suggested reflection questions
- What has been your general emotional response to climate change? Does it tend towards either of the extremes of panic or denial, or have you managed to find some sort of balance?
- What kind of response do you tend to favour, and how much weight do you put on that type of response?
Suggested further reading/ listening
There is no shortage of books and articles about climate change out there (do feel free to recommend these in comments). Here are some resources related to the society and the Middle Way. Some of these may now be getting a bit out of date in some respects, given the ever-developing information about climate changes.
Podcast interview with Adam Corner of the Climate Outreach and Information Centre
Podcast interview with Jonathan Porritt
‘Fiddling while the Planet Burns’ blog post by Robert
‘Embracing Extinction’ talk by Stephen Batchelor at our Festival in 2020
Embracing Extinction: Stephen Batchelor Festival Talk
In this talk Stephen Batchelor highlights the two main existential threats facing humanity and the planet today, namely the Climate Emergency and the Corona Virus crisis. These are both explored within the wider contexts of Buddhism and the Middle Way
This talk was given at the Virtual Festival of the Middle Way, conducted on Zoom on 18th April 2020, with Barry Daniel as chair.
The talk is followed by discussion.
Who moved my cheese?
I was rather amused recently to pick up the little fable ‘Who Moved my Cheese?’, which my daughter had picked up on her travels. Published in 1998 and written by Spencer Johnson, this was apparently a massive bestseller, interpreted for some reason as being about business – although it’s about business no more and no less than any other area of human life. It deals with basic questions about human motivation and responses to change. Its core message is, interestingly enough, about the Middle Way in some respects, though it also seems to slightly miss the point in some others.
What enables this fable to get straight to the point is the way it strips down the complexity of human experience, by setting the story in an apparent endless (almost Borgesian) maze and reducing the focus of all human desires and values to ‘cheese’. We don’t know where ‘cheese’ comes from, or what rules, if any, determine its appearance in the maze (we don’t need to know). All we know is that it appears in the maze from time to time and is the only goal for the characters in the fable. I imagine that Johnson must have started his fable as being about mice in a maze in a psychological experiment, but then decided that mice did not reflect the complexity of human nature closely enough. So instead we have four characters – two mice and two ‘Littlepeople’ (humans that are the same size as mice, and in the same situation).
The mice, Sniff and Scurry, are mainly just a contrast with the Littlepeople, Hem and Haw, said to behave in more straightforward ways due to their smaller brains. This was one area that I found unconvincing, because it seems likely that mice could also get into the same kinds of problems that the Littlepeople do. The problem that frames the story is that all four characters have been accustomed to finding cheese in one place, ‘Cheese Station C’, but then it dwindles and disappears. The mice quickly adapt and scurry off to sniff out cheese elsewhere, but the humans are cognitively attached to only getting cheese in that one place, so they continually rationalise their belief that the cheese will start coming there again. Of the two LIttlepeople, Hem is so stuck that he never leaves Cheese Station C, and gets thinner and thinner, but eventually, with many struggles, Haw overcomes his fear of change and goes off to look for cheese elsewhere. Eventually, of course, he finds it.
So what does this have to do with the Middle Way? Well, the Middle Way is the avoidance of absolutisation, which means getting stuck in particular beliefs that one takes to be the whole story. This is exactly what Hem does, as he absolutises his belief that cheese will return to Cheese Station C and keeps going back there day after day. Haw, on the other hand, illustrates the positive process of the practice of the Middle Way, as he gradually starts to think more provisionally and consider other possibilities. The contrast between them illustrates the adaptivity of the Middle Way – namely, the way in which avoiding absolutisation allows us to face up to changed conditions. To take an overwhelming parallel from the present, Hem could be seen as a climate change denier, stuck in old patterns of thinking, whilst Haw is someone who gradually faces up to the high probability that the ‘cheese’ of a habitable range of planetary temperatures is dwindling and may be about to disappear entirely.
However, there are also aspects of the Middle Way that I think the fable misses. The chief one of these is the tendency for absolutisation to come in opposed pairs of opposites, the attractiveness of which is so strong that the rejection of one absolute is almost bound to result at least temporarily in the adoption of the opposite extreme. This would result in Haw not just reluctantly starting to look for new cheese, but suddenly being struck, as by a revelation, of the falsehood of his previous belief of the Second Coming of cheese to Cheese Station C. He then might become slightly manic in his search for cheese elsewhere, or indeed might fixate on one other alternative cheese station where he believes it’s bound to be. Giving up on absolutes is not just a binary switch from one view to another, but involves a process of navigation between extremes, with constant adjustment and re-adjustment. There is no sign in the fable that Johnson gets this aspect of psychology, constantly illustrated as it is by human behaviour.
Johnson’s attribution of the ‘stuck’ state to one of the Littlepeople rather than to the mice also seems questionable to me, because it assumes that mice don’t get stuck – i.e. that it’s a uniquely human trait arising from our large brains. However, all other mammals and birds have the same bilateral brain structure that we do, which presumably means that the goal-oriented left hemisphere in other animals can become over-dominant just as it can for us. You don’t necessarily have to have a representation in language, as humans do, to be implicitly convinced that your image of the world is absolutely correct. The monkey trap, in which monkeys who put their hand in a jar to get food are trapped by the narrow aperture of the jar as long as they won’t let go of the food, would be an example of another species getting ‘stuck’ in the same way. So I’m not sure that Spencer could not have written a more straightforward fable that was just about mice, rather than inventing ‘Littlepeople’ who are in the position of mice.
In the Wikipedia article on ‘Who Moved my Cheese?’ (which you could read for an alternative summary of the story), one of the criticisms that have been made of it is mentioned. Managers have apparently given the book out to their employees to encourage them to respond ‘flexibly’ to re-structuring or redundancy – a procedure that obviously involves interpreting the story far too narrowly. The employees could just as reasonably give the book to their managers to encourage them to respond ‘flexibly’ to a demand for better pay and conditions! The conditions we need to adapt to are not those created by those who have assumed authority, because those people could also do some adapting in solidarity with others, rather than adopting the demand for provisionality as a tool of power. The people who give and take away the cheese are not the managers but rather the conditions that really are beyond our control, and perhaps even our explanation. The use or abuse of the story in business seems to have contributed to a lack of understanding of its universality.
So, I wouldn’t make excessive claims for this little book. You’re unlikely to get very much more from reading it than you will from my summary or that on Wikipedia. It offers some insights, but also lacks a few more. Nevertheless, it is interesting that it has apparently struck such a chord with its readers and been so accessible. It may be worth picking up if, as it did for me, it crosses your path.